Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

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Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Pluno on Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:51 am

Character Name:

- Pluno.

Class:

- Death Knight.

Primary Spec:

- 0/17/54.

Link to your Armory Profile:

Armory.

UI Screenshot:



*In Raid Encounter*


*Stationary and more up-to date.*



:I use Stuf Unit Frames, DBM, Satrina's Buff Frames (monitor my diseases, self-buffs, and buffs/debuffs.), Titan Panel, Magic Runes, Bagnon, Bartender4 (I think it's that high.), Chatter, Omen (No Recount though, I don't care how much DPS I do, I can ball-park it by how well I did my rotation.), Sexy Map.

:Also use the Curse Client to keep all my Addons up-to date. I love my UI and Won't change a thing *Maybe the Boss Mods because DBM has been breaking my combat log, or vice-verse, causing me to relog every hour or so.*

WWS Parses or equivalent:

- Can't pick a specific log to cite, so here's all of them. A few notes, I do not have a yet (As I'm writing this I am 42/50 shards and hoping to have it by Tomorrow's raid.) and Valistryx, and Shadgavine both have one. These raiders are also getting Hysteria/tricks regularly, so there numbers are a bit inflated.

WMO

WoL

:I would also like to add that I see DPS as being one component in being a good raider. There are many other factors.

>Ability to adapt and change rotation, specs, or abilities to help the raid. (AMS on Infest.)

>Attendance and morale during raids. (Lich King we have up words of 500 attempts on heroic mode and still barely see Phase 3, this really grinds on our spirits, and is effecting us harshly as the weeks drag on.)

>Survivability (Corpses do 0 Dps, I don't care if you hit 20k before you pulled aggro, you're doing 0 while dead.)

>Homework (Do you REALLY know Halion? Or do you run in and die to beams the first attempt. You have no idea how many people don't know how Corporeality still works in Halcyon.)

Do you have an authenticator?

- Yes, I have obtained one as early as I could and haven't regretted it. (I haven't been hacked /knockonwood (Freya humor anyone?) nor do I share my account information with anyone for any reason, and I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as Ad-aware with a built-in firewall in my router)

Tell us about your last guild(s) and the history with why are you choosing us over them:

- My first guild was The Company on Hyjal, I was with them from my first 60 (Who'm I regret saying was a hunter, Don't throw my app away yet!). I was raiding when I was ~15 with my brothers who both played on the same server/guild. I was there for our first BWL clear (We couldn't kill Nef. after they nerfed the Battle shout throne trick) and our fail attempts at aq40 (Prophet always earth shocked our tanks after he split, could never figure that out but we were only in there for a few attempts.), along with the full clears of MC (once, so don't quiz me on the mechanics) and AQ20. I didn't have enough money to attune myself for Naxx. (lol) and my guild only did this twice as it was a voluntary thing and they sucked ass in it anyway. It was rather funny, heh. I LOVED getting my Rhok'delar, Longbow of the Ancient Keepers. I did all the demons myself, except the one in Silithus (It's been so long I forgot all their names) My friends all helped me as it was my last by giving me their buffs. I tried before a raid and before long the whole guild was cheering me on. On my last attempt I was fully buffed and killed him valiantly. It was rather cool, I had a mentor who helped me kill them by giving me tricks and tips (He was a cool hunter who I idolized.) Towards the end of Vanilla I had pre-purchased BC.


- BC was shitty,(Surprise! o wait.) The Company is full of hunter, raiding we had almost 6 in vanilla and proceeded to have Six hunters when raids were beginning to form in BC. (Samir, Sithonis, Apryldaun, Tilion, Orbeus, Myself.) This meant that I drew the short stick and was forced out of raids (I later pugged them with the raiders alts on my hunter, and that's where he sits now. Liaen(PS It's Lie-AAAA-En. NOT Lee-ann Dammit! Also the Armory might not work, I will try to log-onto him before this app. gets reviewed.) I did not get to enjoy anything raid related, I just PvP'd (and owned ass at it if I may say so.) I began to read the Wrath details and was in Awe at the Death Knight class, to which I still play now in a very well established raiding guild - Halcyon.


- I rolled a Death Knight the day I got Wrath and began to play and level with my Brother who'm came back, and my other friend who recently quit. We all rolled death knights and began to level - destroying instances and enjoying the awesome power of the death knight! (That sounded gay.. :| ) When The Company had enough players at 80 (That's how casual we were, it took a few weeks after I was 80.) they began to send out invites, and to my surprise I got invited! We ran Naxx. (And kinda failed at it too) Malygos and Sarth (3d was hard for us. Void Zones give buffs right?) Now, let's get into why I left.

1. Non-tiered DKP.
------ You got a static amount per raid, an early bonus which was randomly given, and items always went up in value, while DKP awarded for a raid or boss kill didn't ever go up. The formula was based off the iLevel of an item, and the slot (2 handers worth more than a 1 hander). This meant my Betrayer put me in the negative.

2. Three Day raid schedule with no Sunday raiders.
------ Raided Wednesday, Thursday, and Sunday from 10 EST - 2 EST. Core raiders were the only people who showed up for Sundays (Including myself) and the raid was called due to 10 people on for invites and DKP awarded.. (Which I absolutely hated. I was there to raid, not get DKP and items. I liked the challenge raids brought.)

3. Officers not listening.
------ Doing Iron Council on Thursday. They were the only bosses we had up (We easy mode everything else) and had a few good attempts at Hard mode Iron Council. We were making progress (I think 10% before our tanks died and healed) and were actually progressing. Upon this, the raid was called an hour early, we easy mode the boss, and had Sunday off. (I can understand that no-body showed up, but calling it didn't solve anything. And it was stupid to call it early when we were doing a hard mode which was progression, and had an hour left in raid.)

4. The Incident.
------ We had a raider that everyone hated, and No, I am no exaggerating.. He was a Boomkin, and didn't care about anyone else but himself. He rolled on the Leather S.Power chest during raids, twice, once Mainspec, other offspec on different dates so the officers didn't notice right away. He won, and auctioned them ON HIS ALT. Who Was IN THE GUILD and was found out before a raid as someone in the guild trolled the AH. When he was called out in vent., he only could produce one of them, he wasn't asked to give any gold for the items, he didn't lose any additional DKP, he wasn't kicked form the guild, and above all, the was still an ass to everyone.. This made me Mad. Really mad. How could you NOT kick him? Seriously!! I asked an officer who'm I though actually had a brain and was quickly shot down in a raid warning. This made me pull away from this guild. /sigh

4a. Another Incident.
------ During this Iron Council attempt night, the last attempt (easy mode) the little guy (Stormcaller) began to cast an Overload which everyone but me ran out for. I cast Anti-magic shell to absorb the damage, gain Runic Power, and didn't lose DPS time due to running out. Upon this an Officer who was *trying* to heal the raid began to yell at me in vent. I explained, and linked the spell to him and said "I don't take any damage, it increases my damage, and isn't an inconvenience to anyone else." (I said it just like that, right before I saved a woman from a burning building while fighting off a lion with one hand tied behind my back. Srsly.) He was a persistent dick and even after my Brother (Who played a DK tank.) and my DK friend, as well as the raid leader assured him it was ok, he continued to rant and bitch. He finally yelled after the last time I stood in and absorbed an Overload, to which I contradicted him because he was putting up a on my party anyway, healing any damage that anyone was taking, if anyone was even taking any (Which they shouldn't have been Right?). He didn't say anything after that, and that was the night before I left for Halcyon.

5. No 10-man groups.
------ The only 10 man group we had was what we called the A-team, it was a stacked group who saw 10 man hard modes regularly while the other 10 mans could barely down bosses (my group.) I tried to get into this group, but my DK friend was invited every night over me. I was pretty sad, and mad that I wasn't involved in this progression (I felt like I was a good raider, and still feel like I should have been in there with them.)

6. The friends.
------ Both my brothers and a couple of my close friends including the raid leader had begun to show up to raids on/off. The raid leader was hospitalized due to stress (he had a hard job and had to deal with us all night.). The day of the Iron Council he had said he wasn't going to raid lead, if play anymore. I was close to him, and had enjoyed his company. He knew our ranged sucked, and our melee were where the brains were. It was sad that he had to leave, but before he left he had told me that I should seek a new guild. My DK friend had expressed that he wasn't going to play once the Raid leader quit, and my brother had slowly begun to drift away from raiding. This is the night I applied to Halcyon, and was accepted (even though my gear Blew Ass.)

7. Off Spec Gear.
------ This is why I didn't learn other specs that well, because mainspec was 100% DKP of the item, while offspec meant Healer, Tank, or DPS. Which meant if I wanted to get an ArP item for my blood set to begin to learn the ways of blood (back before unholy liked ArP), it would cost me 100% DKP. Why would I waste my DKP on offspec gear when my mainspec wasn't completed? I also never worked on a tank spec because the offspec gear was 50% of the DKP cost of the item. Which also meant I would be wasting DKP essentially that didn't help the raid at all.

Halcyon

- After applying, acceptance, and transferring over I was quickly overwhelmed. My first night we had attempts on Yogg 1 light (I had only seen 4 light. *tear*) I quickly began to adapt and learn their methods. Everyone had a portal assignment, and a corresponding tentacle when in Yogg to DPS. I ran a few attempts and was in AWE that no-one hit a cloud on accident. (Sad, I know. The Company use to hit about 50, and this was before they had added the emote that called out the person.) A few solid attempts and my first night was over, leaving us pondering how the hunters were going to misdirect the adds to the corresponding tank when they were empowered. The next night we got in, got setup again and one shot it. (Given we only have a few people alive in the end, I was rather impressed we had killed such an unfathomable feat.) During the new months I had begun to see Hardmodes I had only read about - All of Ulduar (Including the drakes 10m and 25m) as well as our Yogg 0 Kill, and Algalon 10 and shortly after 25m kills.

- Reasons for leaving Halcyon:

1. Where we stand.
------ We have currently invested over 500 attempts into HLK 25m, and about 100 attempts in 10m. During this time, we haven't seen Phase 3 more than a few times. We constantly have bad defiles, people out of place for Valks (whichs leads them to go the wrong way or slightly off so cleaves aren't effective.) Or constant mindless errors. (Shadowtraps, horror aggro, raging spirit deaths, Ice Spheres.) We show little to NO improvement.

2. The Mentality.
------ We constantly have people not posting or showing, people who never adapt to the encounter, and people who always think what they're doing is right, regardless of the Raid leader. The general morale of the raid has sunken, and we find ourselves with less than a full raid for Lich King night. (I wonder why? :cry: )

3. The Lone Death Knight.
------ Upon joining the guild, I had no one that instantly connected to me aside from one person. Even the fellow death knights weren't happy to have me (I suspect they thought I was a gear sponge). I constantly showed up for raids, and was effective in what I did. I had no idea why no one liked me, but long story short, I never had any friends to talk to. I was alone, no matter what I tried. Everything I said ended sentences, and I eventually gave up trying. I still feel this way today, months after being in Halcyon. It was never a home for me, and it was my first Hardcore guild. I don't feel bad for the wasted time, but mostly for the wasted effort.

Tell us how you play your class, and how it makes you stand apart from others:

- I play my class with finesse and skill. I don't know everything about my class, but I am willing to learn and advance on those few flaws. I know the strengths and weaknesses of every aspect, and can capitalize upon them. I don't die to stupid crap either. I have a very keen eye for raid awareness. Where others die to Meteor's or stand in Defiles, I am the one who is already moving away from them the moment I see them. Being committed to raiding and survivability I think is much better than dealing high numbers, or having a soap opera going on in your PM's. I don't talk a lot unless it's farm content, easy modes, 10 mans Non-progression, or when addressed. Such as Why did you die, what can you respec. to help the encounter, ext. I am also a very quick learner. (Fire hurts.) I can learn how to capitalize my DPS or Help the tanks/healers. (AMS Infests, run our for defiles before they cast, Pestilence onto the Valks before they fly up to help off-tank get aggro easily - We used a Pally Tank but Warr. + Vigilance would also help.)

What do you have bound to your 1-5 keys?

1. Plague Strike.
2. Icy Touch. (I was thinking of setting them on a cast timer to one macro, but I tap my keys way too much to make use of it. I usually go 1111111 (Plague Strike applied) 222222 (Icy Touch applied) ext.
3. Scourge Strike (Love you!)
4. Blood Strike (Wish we got Heart Strike in Wrath.)
5. Death Coil (AKA Warlock Wannabe.)
Others:
X is for Stangulate.
Mouse Wheel down for AMS.
My strikes have a /petattack bound into them to cause my pet to attack my target. (Passive mode always).
-Also has Rune strike, and startattack bound into all of them.
R is for Mind Freeze.
X is for Healthstone (Or Health Pot. if no Stone)
*Not going to lie I click a few things but my reaction time can cause me to recover from that quickly. Most of my clicks (Pestilence, Army, Blood Boil, Gargoyle, Pot., are all on long cds or are situational.*

Tell us about yourself. Show us the man/woman behind the character. And impress us, make us laugh. Convince us we want you in our guild. If you don't take the time to sell yourself, there's no reason for us to want to take you. We've worked hard to make this a great place to raid and demand incoming candidates prove they're committed to continuing that.

- The only reason you should bring me to raid is because I have a Shadowmourne, and I bring Ebon Plaguebringer.

- Hah, I am a commited raider who began his career long before Wrath. I use to play Asheron's Call, Diablo, Diablo II, and other various games like these that began my Video Game fascination before WoW.(I remember when the SNES was NEW! Good old Zelda. N64 was my favorite, Ocarina of Time is a classic. And Super Smash Bros.) I began playing in the Stress Test (I could barely move but LOVED it!) And quickly found the game captivating. Open Beta came and my Orc Warlock was born! And quickly deleted! Haha - I rolled a Dwarf Hunter shortly after and began to play when the game arrived at my doorstep. I was in love with the aspect of the game, and the fun times it showed gaining gear and advancing your character. I loved RPG's and the element of gaining gear and titles and mounts so much I found myself playing every night. I had a job at a Resturant being a Dishwasher (I was only 13 but had a chunk of money saved up with my own VISA my Mom helped me obtain.) I took pride in my work in and out of the game, and pushed to improve on aspects. If the raid leader told me to stay out of fire, I stood the Hell out of fire. (Better than some of the other raiders.) I was proud of my one dragon I kited during Razorgore, as my Mentor Hunter had 5 or more. (The whole raid laughed when the hunters died except me and I was still kiting my dragon like a champ. Until they all face stomped me. This was before raid frames, back in my day you had to DRAG the groups out of your raid window.)

- My real name is Chris (Cheese, Topher, Hopper, Captian are all nicknames.) and I live in New York. I began raiding on PST realms that spanned until 2 am (Which was late as hell for me) and believed that the only guilds I could get into were PST who began 10mans after the 25mans (Which was way too late.) I work as a Line Cook (GOD DO I HATE IT) who is underpaid, under-appreciated, and generally sick of it. I still don't have my license even thought I'm 19 (almost 20, and I blame my parents. I have a road test scheduled on 7/30 which I WILL pass.) I own a jeep (That I barely drive) I am Shy, anti-social, and generally the smart kid who solves the problems no-one else in school could. I never showed up for class but got the highest grade on tests in Math. I have been out of High School for a year now, and am waiting one more year till I apply to a community college to obtain a degree in (blank).

- I pride myself in doing well in raids, with an almost flawless attendance. I don't raid to get gear (It is a side-effect that I enjoy) I raid to brag to my friends, show off my character, and up-stage people who think they are "good" WoW players (this was mainly in high school, but still brag at work.) I had a graduation party that I logged onto after the party and was a wee-bit too intoxicated (Thank god it was farm-content and a Sunday.) I have been late on Sundays (With my current work schedule I work on Fridays 3pm-9pm, Saturdays 3pm-9pm, and then turn around and work Sunday form 7am-4pm.) I of course get only an hour of sleep and thus proceed to either hot coffee though the Sunday raid (doesn't work too well) Or try to take a nap. Which leads me to be a few minutes late from time to time. >.> <.<.

- I currently am playing APB (Fun time kill) and am Awaiting the arrival of Fallout New Vegas, Stars Wars, and a new Mass Effect.(I want to have Bioware's and Betheseda Studio's first born. Even though Beth. joined EA which they had better NOT Fuck over or I will be MAD.)(I only play PC games, because I spent a ton of money and time on my computer.)
-i5 750 at 2.77ghz
-Intel x-25m 160gb SSD.
-XFX 5870 1g GPU
-ASUS LGA 1156 P55 Mobo
-Corasir Dominators DDR3-1600 4gb ram.
- I custom built this computer not a few months ago, and am in love with it. I also run Win 7 64 bit. (Vista Suxxs.)

- I have played a ton of games in my past, ranging from Warcraft 3, to Red Alert, Asheron's Call, Mass Effect 1&2, Dungeon Siege, Diablo(s), EQ2, Ace of Conan, D&D Online, Modern Warfare 1&2 (1 was so much better IMO.) the list goes on.


- There are only two things that make me mad...

1. Sitting for Progression for an unjust reason.
------ DK's are pretty nice raid utility in all honesty (with the Desecration for the Valks and ability to spread diseases in an AoE encounter.) and Myself I see as being a very formidable raider. (both in raid awareness and DPS in an AoE encounter specifically and Single Target I try. And that's all that counts right? :( )

2. Being told how to play my class.
------ This stems from the Officer in The Company. I have no problem if you ASK me about anything, why I spec how I do, what I can do to help the raid, ext. Don't say "Don't AMS the overload because AMS sucks." Because I will hate you. And Probably come back and burn your ass hard in vent.

- I won't lie, my current guild is fun and nice, but I feel like there may be a home out there somewhere. Upon reading the site, I had a few questions of my idea of a better raid environment over Halcyon.

1. When Cata. comes around, will Midwinter be divided into 10 mans, or a 25 man? If on the fence, what will cause One or the other? (Legendaries in 10m = go?)

2. What is the loot system? (Call me stupid if I don't see it, SORRY!) But you can see WHY I would HATE DKP, I can deal with tiered and such. Halcyon currently uses a Loot Council with a zero-sum dkp. (It's all lies really, the officers base it off of attendance and raid savvy which is why I have obtained my Shadowmourne third and got my 277 t10 before anyone else (that and Vanq. drops like a mofo.).) Valistryx obtained the first (without a doubt) and our tank Online got the second (I wondered why I wasn't before the tank, but he was in the guild way before me. I didn't complain because I knew I would get one with these crazy high drop rates after Val. got his really quickly.)

3. What would you do if someone had done what the Boomkin did with the Ulduar chest? *Just Curious*


- I know this may seem very demanding, but I would love to just listen to a few off-night raids, or maybe even a main raid (probably not because we raid the same times and with Halion wipe-fest we don't have an off night (which I don't mind)) I would love to hear and listen to how raids go, how people act and talk to one another. I am leaving Halcyon on a good note, informing the officers of my decision to find a new home by raid time tomorrow. I hope they see the situation through my eyes, and hopefully don't give me a hard time.

- This is pretty much my life story involving WoW, I hope any criticism isn't too harsh, but I welcome any suggestions/comments with open arms. Thank you for reading my autobiography, and hopefully you didn't fall asleep during it.

-Awaiting a welcome home.
-Pluno
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Repression on Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:11 am

Pluno wrote:- There are only two things that make me mad...

1. Sitting for Progression for an unjust reason.
------ DK's are pretty nice raid utility in all honesty (with the Desecration for the Valks and ability to spread diseases in an AoE encounter.) and Myself I see as being a very formidable raider. (both in raid awareness and DPS in an AoE encounter specifically and Single Target I try. And that's all that counts right? :( )

2. Being told how to play my class.
------ This stems from the Officer in The Company. I have no problem if you ASK me about anything, why I spec how I do, what I can do to help the raid, ext. Don't say "Don't AMS the overload because AMS sucks." Because I will hate you. And Probably come back and burn your ass hard in vent.


First off, number one is a problem. Perhaps I'm not giving you enough credit, and you might need to elaborate more on what you think constitutes an "unjust reason." Honestly though, at first glance, this sounds like you need to be coddled, and if you're sat, you'll cry.

Number two is a different sort of problem. I don't think anyone here dictates play per se, but if a person gives you constructive critcism and you reply negatively, you won't last long here. I realize that in the specific example you gave, that criticism was not constructive, but seriously the whole "It's my class, so of course I know how to play it" is the most-cited argument of the god-awful pugs with a sense of entitlement. Not exactly the best route for you to take.
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Oshiri on Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:07 am

Pluno wrote:I never showed up for class but got the highest grade on tests in Math.


app vs. Kind in a math-off, go.

Repression already put exactly what I was thinking as I read through the bottom half of your app. Also, referring to the 'boomkin' thing, wouldn't happen. We don't recruit people like that, nor is anyone in our guild like that. Also any and all BOEs/Saronites, etc. go to our bank. Period. If a raider needs it they can request it, but we don't just roll it off. Also Fusoya would never allow such an occurance. (He's our banker :p ) Not sure about logs, etc. I'm sure someone'll give em a look through. Your overall questions are definitely concerning to say the least, though. At least to me.
At any rate, good luck with the app and your search for a new guild v(^0^)v

edit: just did a random look at the past couple weeks, looked at a few easy melee fights (marrow/rotface/saurfang) and...do you not like using potions? I see them on your UI, yet I don't see them in your logs (I think I saw ...1 or 2, possibly, out of like 6 or 7 fights. That's 1 or 2 TOTAL, so no pre-pot either :< )
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Malrik on Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:39 am

I can see you took a cursory glance at our application examples, though I think the only thing you took from any of them was WALLOFTEXT. Much much more of your app was dedicated to past guild drama and questions about our loot system than how your play your class or what you would bring to our raid environment.

I do not give a fuck what happened in your previous guilds unless it will directly affect the raid environment or quality of life in Midwinter. A brief history of your raid experience and previous homes is nice to give us an idea of where you've been, what you've done, and how you've done it, but you app smacks of drama, drama, drama.

I can see loot is a big concern with you. No, we do not use a DKP system, we've had a loot council system that has been in effect since the Burning Crusade that works constantly to keep lists balanced.

Although I'm not an officer, I think it is safe to say that as a guild that has been steadily pushing 25 man progression Midwinter will likely be staying with that raid model, despite whether or not you want legendaries from 10 mans.

Repression and Oshiri have elaborated on other concerns with your app (not taking advice well and such), so taking into account this criticism, what do you feel you can bring to our raid environment as a Death Knight in both our farming of WOTLK and in Cataclysm progression? What things set you apart enough to join the ranks of a guild that clears all of the current end-game content in one night (keeping in mind your lack of a hard-mode LK and Halion kills)?
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Pluno on Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:36 pm

Ok, first I'm sorry you thought it was a "Wall Of Text" but I thought I put a bit more time in organization than others would have, given I have a ton of information, I knew I wanted to tell it all. This will be my third guild, and I'm sorry you thought my past raiding experiences weren't a valid reason for asking questions. I don't clan hop, and I enjoy the time I spent with my previous guilds, and seek to find new ones for various reasons.

I also asked these questions because when it comes to it these will directly affect the raid at hand. Splitting to 10 mans is a huge deal, or at least to me. I'm also sorry you took my reasons for getting upset wrong, I said I would adapt to my criticism no matter how harsh, I also said I don't know everything about my class, very few people due. And I merely said the sitting for progression because on several occasions I was sat when a trial member joined Halcyon.

I don't pre-pot for farm easy modes (I can if Midwinder wanted me to) but I merely see it as a waste of potions when the boss is easy mode farm. I pot for hardmodes, all progression encounters, and all new fights even when learning. I didn't pot for Marrowgaw because we turned around and wasted countless nights attempting Deathwhisperer, which is where most of the potions for the night went.

Everyone knows what a death knight brings, which is why I told you what I bring. But apparently I told too much, this is my third guild, and I'm sorry I apparently wasted my time in this App. How could those past experiences not define my raiding mentality? I hate DKP systems, and no where on this site that I've seen shows the loot system. And how can officers taking a high-horse not affect how I feel about people feeling like they know more than my class? And the legendary is caster in Cata., and that's not why I asked this questions, I was merely wondering if it would push the guild to break into 10 mans because the lengendaries are BiS and help progression.
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Repression on Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:47 pm

You know what this application exudes??

WEAKNESS!

Pluno wrote:Ok, first I'm sorry you thought it was a "Wall Of Text" but I thought I put a bit more time in organization than others would have, given I have a ton of information, I knew I wanted to tell it all. This will be my third guild, and I'm sorry you thought my past raiding experiences weren't a valid reason for asking questions. I don't clan hop, and I enjoy the time I spent with my previous guilds, and seek to find new ones for various reasons.


WEAK!

Pluno wrote:I also asked these questions because when it comes to it these will directly affect the raid at hand. Splitting to 10 mans is a huge deal, or at least to me. I'm also sorry you took my reasons for getting upset wrong, I said I would adapt to my criticism no matter how harsh, I also said I don't know everything about my class, very few people due. And I merely said the sitting for progression because on several occasions I was sat when a trial member joined Halcyon.


WEAK!

Pluno wrote:I don't pre-pot for farm easy modes (I can if Midwinder wanted me to) but I merely see it as a waste of potions when the boss is easy mode farm. I pot for hardmodes, all progression encounters, and all new fights even when learning. I didn't pot for Marrowgaw because we turned around and wasted countless nights attempting Deathwhisperer, which is where most of the potions for the night went.


WEAK!

Pluno wrote:Everyone knows what a death knight brings, which is why I told you what I bring. But apparently I told too much, this is my third guild, and I'm sorry I apparently wasted my time in this App. How could those past experiences not define my raiding mentality? I hate DKP systems, and no where on this site that I've seen shows the loot system. And how can officers taking a high-horse not affect how I feel about people feeling like they know more than my class? And the legendary is caster in Cata., and that's not why I asked this questions, I was merely wondering if it would push the guild to break into 10 mans because the lengendaries are BiS and help progression.


WEAKNESS!

You need 10x more wheaties in your diet!

Disclaimer: My post will probably be deleted for contributing nothing to this app, but...plz put some hair on ur chest.
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Oshiri on Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:17 pm

Pluno wrote:Ok, first I'm sorry you thought it was a "Wall Of Text" but I thought I put a bit more time in organization than others would have, given I have a ton of information, I knew I wanted to tell it all. This will be my third guild, and I'm sorry you thought my past raiding experiences weren't a valid reason for asking questions. I don't clan hop, and I enjoy the time I spent with my previous guilds, and seek to find new ones for various reasons.

I also asked these questions because when it comes to it these will directly affect the raid at hand. Splitting to 10 mans is a huge deal, or at least to me. I'm also sorry you took my reasons for getting upset wrong, I said I would adapt to my criticism no matter how harsh, I also said I don't know everything about my class, very few people due. And I merely said the sitting for progression because on several occasions I was sat when a trial member joined Halcyon.

I don't pre-pot for farm easy modes (I can if Midwinder wanted me to) but I merely see it as a waste of potions when the boss is easy mode farm. I pot for hardmodes, all progression encounters, and all new fights even when learning. I didn't pot for Marrowgaw because we turned around and wasted countless nights attempting Deathwhisperer, which is where most of the potions for the night went.

Everyone knows what a death knight brings, which is why I told you what I bring. But apparently I told too much, this is my third guild, and I'm sorry I apparently wasted my time in this App. How could those past experiences not define my raiding mentality? I hate DKP systems, and no where on this site that I've seen shows the loot system. And how can officers taking a high-horse not affect how I feel about people feeling like they know more than my class? And the legendary is caster in Cata., and that's not why I asked this questions, I was merely wondering if it would push the guild to break into 10 mans because the lengendaries are BiS and help progression.

Malrik didn't comment on the wall-o-text being a negative, just the content that was in it. A brief background of your previous guild(s) and something simple like 'there was drama which killed the guild so I left' or something, would have sufficed. Putting in a novel about the intricate details of drama is pointless as it doesn't really do anything for us in telling us about you. Your questions about being a 10 or 25man guild in cata is fine, and our loot system is fine. both were answered by malrik. as for potting, I'm not sure about your mentality as a WoW player, but once a boss is on farm the only thing left to do is maximize your dps. You DON'T maximize it by choosing not to pot b/c it's a farm boss. That alone is a huge red flag (to me). You say "How can officers taking a high-horse not affect how I feel about people feeling like they know more than my class?" first off, that may be for that guild that you were in, but going into a brand new guild there's...guess what? brand new people. they aren't the same, in fact here they MAY IN FACT know more about your class than you do. They may not, but the fact that 1 disagreement in your past has completely turned you off of the idea of criticism in any way/shape or form is pretty concerning. and i have no idea wtf is with repression's post.
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Re: Pluno - Unholy DK - Transfer

Postby Cactipete on Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:25 pm

Yea stop acting like you are being attacked. Malrik is right, what he was getting at was not what you bring to our raid literally in terms of your class abilities. But what makes you special from all the other DK's out there? You failed to stand out.

You are way to dramatic to be part of this guild. The truth is, this guild likes "walls of text" in our apps, as long as the wall is relevant to your application. You realized you droned on so fucking long about the dramatic experiences you had and why you are leaving this guild and that guild. A brief explanation would be just fine and not half your app being about drama. We do not give a crap about all that stuff. You spent more time justifying your actions of wanting to leave then describing why the fuck we should set up an interview. Anyways, enough time being wasted on this shit. Go calm down, and apply somewhere else. Denied.
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